Sunday, March 02, 2008


This is Robery Morey speaking about a subject some folks do not want to talk about or believe and that is "God is a God of Wrath" and that He does not love everyone in the world. I always hear "God died on the Cross for everyone", No He did not because if He died for everyone, then all would be saved. ....and that is Universalism...

When He shows no anger!

("The Mute Christian Under the Smarting Rod"
or, "The Silent Soul with Sovereign Antidotes"
by Thomas Brooks, 1659, London.)

"The Lord disciplines the one He loves, and
punishes every son whom He receives." Heb. 12:6

There cannot be a greater evidence of God's
hatred and wrath--than His refusing to correct
men for their sinful courses and vanities!

Where God refuses to correct--there God resolves
to destroy! There is no man so near God's axe--so
near the flames--so near hell--as he whom God
will not so much as spend a rod upon!

"Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline."
Revelation 3:19

God is most angry--when He shows no anger!

Who can seriously meditate upon this, and not
be silent under God's most smarting rod?



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Anonymous said...

For some reason when Sproul teaches a hard doctrine like this, he just says it better than this man does. This man is lacking a few things and has too much of other things. He is lacking a real concern for those who are deceived or who just have faulty doctrine. He's cold and shocking. This brings too much attention to himself and not to the truth that he is trying to telling. He is also lacking the reason behind why he is saying what he is saying. So God's hates some people BUT WHY? This man left out why this knowledge of God hating some people glorifies Himself which is a BIG thing to leave out. Leaving out this point only makes this man shocking and edgy and makes the hyper-Calvinist get even more hyper. He has unwittingly made his speech humanistic by leaving out "the rest of the story". The whole story of any Biblical doctrine which is told in a loving and merciful way is shocking enough and shocks people toward God. Half of a shocking story only shocks people toward the story-teller either in a positive or negative manner...neither of which is good. We must always stay balanced when sharing truths. This guys seems to want to run so far away from the mystic, humanist, etc that he runs to the other side which is void of any love, grace, or mercy in what he is saying. Yes, it isn't pleasant to the human ear to hear that God hates some people, but if you balance that with the REASON why He hates some and loves others, then it shows how glorifying this truth is and focuses the truth upon God instead of a speaker who mimics different groups who are deceived...the man lacks a loving attitude. He forgot the rest of the story which is wrong. I understand how frustrating it is when people distort God's truths and make up a gospel that isn't the Gospel at all, but this guy is over the top. He just comes across as a person who wants to shock people instead of wanting to glorify God through His Word.

Baptist Girl said...

I believe what he is saying these Humanist and mystics are in our churches and they are a danger...a real danger and they have platforms else where and a danger too...Oprah is great example. We can at least try to control what is happening in our churches. Dr. Morey is straight forward speaker, if you listen to other messages you will see what I mean. Also there are preachers that are catering to these people.
The truth offends most people no matter how it presented.

Anonymous said...

I agree with that. There are many humanists and mystics that need to be rooted out of the church and shown for what they are. Those who reject the Gospel according to the Bible need to be disciplined and if they don't repent need to be expelled. They are then to be treated as a "tax collector". How do we treat the "tax collector"? Not by exaggerating how they speak and so to make fun of them, but to tell the truth in love and with mercy. The truth does offend the lost but may we never offend the lost with our attitude. The first comment I made was a big "Amen" because I had only read what you wrote and from what I know of you, you have a heart for the lost to see them saved and I don't see you making fun of them. He might be great...I'm just judging this one video which wasn't done so well. I guess he reminds me of a hyper-calvinist...not in his doctrine but in his attitude...there's something just wrong about it. One can and should be forth coming but without the mimicking of others. Don't you think so? You certainly get the Gospel across to others minus the making fun of the confused, doctinely-disabled, or unsaved person...why can't he?

Baptist Girl said...

I agree with you on the mimicking part, that was not needed but I do agree with his message. I do have a love for the lost and I most certainly want to see folks get saved but sometimes the truth will seem hateful to the lost. I have experienced it even when I present in the most loving way. As for Hyper-calvinist I agree some come across that way. Please read the next blog from Spurgeon, even back then the church was dealing with this sort of stuff.It is long but very very good.


Anonymous said...

No dispute there, Cristina! The lost will always hate Christ and His followers! Sometimes I also get sarcastic with heretics which isn't Christian at all and I'm only doing God a dis-service. It's hard to be firm and stict without losing one's patience. I think I saw the mimicking in him and then saw my own heart which is always so shocking...don't you think? I guess it's easier for me to correct the behavior of others than it is for me to correct my own behavior. Oh, how we need Christ and each other! Love ya!

Baptist Girl said...

I agree 100%!

Love ya too, have a great week!